Event Manager without being Event Admin
Prevent Event Admins from editing member data - or allow some events to be configured by non-admin. We want to allow certain members (rotates - different person each year) to be the 'admin' of an event but not give them full access (editing member data, viewing member financial info unrelated to the event). Wish there were a way to allow them to edit and monitor event registrations without being an admin.
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Anonymous commented
Agree. Events Manager should not have access to Membership Invoices, only event invoices.
Also need Limited Event Managers for specific events. Our club has 3+ community events each year, each has a different manager. These managers do not need access to our club member database. (other than maybe view)
Managers need registration view and edit, view of payment, receipt of payment for event and check in ability. Also ability to add walk-in attendees.
Thanks
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Randall (Randy) Rensch commented
Give Organizers admin access (only) to their own event. It's absurd that our Organizer/Reservationist for each event has to depend on an admin to email them a spreadsheet just so they can track who has signed up and status etc. But we do NOT want to give these dozens of Organizers full admin privileges. Also, their access should expire when the event has passed, or a specified period thereafter.
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Brighton commented
Hi,
We use the Wild Apricot system as a means for our registered members to sign up for paddling sessions. It would be extremely helpful for our coaches if (1)
(2) If there was an easy way for the coaches to print the attendees list. Right now it is spaced out so much that it can take up to three - four pages. Not all of our coaches are administrators and don't require that access. -
Estela Basso commented
Our club sells ski trips and we want each trip leader to be able to manage their event (add or delete or edit participants registrations). But for their event ONLY not the whole website. PLEASE dear Wild Apricot.
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Estela Basso commented
Please add this feature! We organize ski trips and it would be extremely helpful if each trip leader could be the administrator of his/her event: add or delete participants, edit their registrations and so on. We would be giddy with happiness! thank you so much.
Estela VP of Ski Trips -
Estela Basso commented
Dear Wild Apricot;
It would make our Club wildly, giddily happy if each event can have a different administrator, with the ability to add attendees to that event or to edit the registrations for that event. But that right would be FOR THAT event ONLY! We sell ski trips and we would like each trip leader to have control of their event (but not the others)
Is there a way to do that right now? Hoping… J
Thank you so much in advance
Our domain is www.gatorsnowskiclub.com and this would be extremely useful to manage the ski trips.
Sincerely yours;
Estela Basso
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Anonymous commented
I'm a Sailing Club. For our "Sailing Events" crew registers and completes registration form with skill level, crew position preferred, etc. Our Captains (who are in a special group) want to see the details from the registration form in order to select crew.
Today, the Sailing Event organizer must export registrants details and circulate the spreadsheet only to be outdated as soon as another crew registers. Its hard to keep up with. Advantage to Crew who now can signup with specific skills/preferences, but still a nightmare to the event organizer and Captains/ users of the data.
Appreciate you help in improving per many of the comments in this thread.
Thanks Sheila O'Neil -
Cindy Cooper commented
An Event Manager admin doesn't have access to other info. HOWEVER, we have numerous people managing maybe 1 or just a few events. We don't want to give them Event Manager admin permissions because we have already used our 10 admins for other purposes. We would like them to have the ability to set up and manage just their events.
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Bruce Doll commented
There is a small box for "will bring to share" for an event, but it can only be seen by administrators. It needs to be visible to all members to facilitate coordination. Thanks!
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Kendra Sechovec commented
We too need the option for assigning a level for short term event chairs to be able to export event lists and view event info without having the full admin privileges of editing member profiles, recording payments and viewing everything in the system. Each year that person (needing event export ability) may change to a different person. We found that we can't even assign them as "view only" admin because that allows viewing of all data and cannot send group emails ( a necessary function when you are in charge of an event).
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Jason Yee commented
We have a similar problem where we want our co-chairs to have access to only the registration list. Currently, the event manager setting allows the user to do too much, such as emailing members, editing invoices, etc. What we really need a lower user level that can only view the event registrations or maybe just edit the events, but not anything else.
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Gary Pendleton commented
This would be a convenient feature for us. we have separate field trip leaders who would like to have the registration information prior to the trip (to arrange carpools) as well as the day of the trip to check in participants. If an admin is not there, they can't verify registrations.
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Read it finally, sorry for the delay. Thank you so much for the details, Randall. You definitely have a complicated setup. My key understanding is that you have special people who you do not want to give normal Admin access (so they can do what they need to do), you need to restrict their access a lot.
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Randall (Randy) Rensch commented
PS: Thank you for your interest, in asking for details.
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Randall (Randy) Rensch commented
We are a ski club, and run events of various types. Some are evening get-togethers involving no charge by us (eg. a happy hour, dinner or ice skating at a local venue) some involve a charge (e.g. a party or group-tickets film), some are weekend stays at our lodge in New England. Of those stays, some are bus trips requiring payment in advance, others are carpools where people pay at the end of the weekend.
Each event has a "reservationist" who takes reservations, keeps track of "sales," arranged drivers and riders, assigns rooms or whatever the event entails. For decades we've done this using spreadsheets and/or our own proprietary software (a PHP-written CMS backend that produced our website calendar, created emails, managed data, stored documents securely (.htaccess level) and stored how-to screens). Understandably, we didn't want to be dependent on one or two members who created that system, which is why we turned to WA, which had meanwhile grown more robust and versatile.
Unfortunately, not quite versatile enough for us to use without requiring way more training and managerial effort than should be necessary. Previously, an event would be put on the calendar and various people would make it happen. But now, especially now that this year we decided to try requiring Registration for almost all events of all types, our Reservationists can't even reliably get the registrant data! They get an email, but what if it goes missing? And having gotten all the registrant emails, then they have to, what, create a spreadsheet or some such document? That's missing the point of this system, eh?
So now someone on our management committee (i.e., and Admin) has to export the data, ideally every day, to each and every Reservationist! Multiply that, during our peak season, to two or three local events every couple of weeks, and four weekends a month, and it just gets silly to even consider.
It would work so much better if each reservationist could access the Registrant data for their respective event, ideally with the ability to add or revise data and add or remove registrations, without giving them access to the whole system (with the obvious data and privacy risks in that). When the particular event is over, we would then want to cancel that Reservationists' access either manually or automatically.
By the way, we've always called them Reservationists, but that's also an important distinction. The person who organizes and event is not necessarily the person tracking reservations. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. And sometimes there is more than one organizer. Yet we're limited to one Organizer per event, with our automatic emails going out with their personal address as reply-to. That's both a privacy and a security issue (about which I've placed another wish on the wishlist already), so for each event we create an autoforward at our domain registrar, which is the one we publish and (after putting into our Contacts list and setting preferences so it won't get all our emails), is the one we specify as Organizer.
I hope that gives you a sense of our workflow. I'm not sure my offhand description is as organized as our procedures themselves are, but they've worked for decades, and now with WA, some of our people have gotten pretty confused. Some of it is just the transition from paper to computer, but some is a result of having to shoehorn our systems into your capabilities, which are great in some ways, but in others very limited or inflexible. (For example, the Registration form itself, which I've also already mentioned on the Wishlist).
I'd be happy to walk you through some actual events if that would help. But the bottom line is: help us distribute the workload so that our individuals who volunteer their time to help with an event can truly collaborate and each do a part of the job, without requiring more than supervisory involvement by our management committee members and webmaster, who are also volunteers.
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Could you describe how you organize your events? What are the roles you have? Who you communication with each other? What is the workflow, who does what and who has or has not access to some data? This would greatly help us to understand the problem.
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Randall (Randy) Rensch commented
I think this might be part of this wish:
We have several people in charge of various types of events. Each event has a Reservationist (who you call Organizer), who tracks registrations, and payments, arranges car pools, orders refreshments, etc. Currently all a Reservationist receives to work with is a bunch of emails, which in some email environments are hard to organize, hard to work with, and easy to miss (and in one case was questioned as a test or spam). If they want a list or spreadsheet, someone with Admin privileges must download data as a spreadsheet, ideally doing this every day and for every event -- a huge task that should not be necessary and will not be done. (Someone has asked me, if I still have to circulate spreadsheets, why do we need WA?)
We need to give limited or read-only access to each Organizer, so they can see current registration data for their event. Ideally they should also be able to make notes and changes, but only in their own event, and (ideally) only in event-related fields, and they should not see sensitive data.
I would settle for the Organizer being able simply to download the Registrations data themselves, as either a spreadsheet or organized list (text and/or Word file), for their event only, without needing further Admin privileges.
I agree, this is critical. We can't very well give a dozens of Organizers broad Admin privileges. This year we decided to require Registration for all our events (as opposed to also accepting reservations by email), but what's the point if our Reservationists can't access it?
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Randall (Randy) Rensch commented
Limited or read-only access by Organizer to registration data for their event.
Currently our Events Manager has to produce a spread sheet every day and email it to the respective Reservationist (Organizer), doing this for EVERY event. An impossible task. And if we need to circulate spreadsheets, why do we need WA? (Sorry)
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[Deleted User] commented
This is critical. An event coordinator for Event A shouldn't be able to do anything to Event Z.
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Amy commented
This would be great for our organisation - we have volunteers across various states who manage events and we would like to give them access, but without the risk that the member information is open, or would be changed.