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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    The chances of this feature being implemented anytime soon is close to zero. You can complain here and offer all sorts of amazing solutions but the product is mature and personify won’t be and has not been investing much development resources to do anything but upkeep security profile and adding an app feature for 2 apps they have started to offer.

    This is why we are offering an alternative : https://newpathconsulting.com/wordpress-for-assocations/ - we are looking at features like this being important and are actively assembling beta testers.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Haha -- it's the most important skill anyone can learn to simply customize Wild Apricot pages. It's fully documented on where to enter the CSS, but knowing the structure and properties is a learned art like bonsai tree pruning. Anyways... Enter this into your CSS.

    .***************************************************************************************************************************************** .boxActionContainer input.typeButton

    {
    margin-top: -1000px;
    }

    What this does is target the Register button and moves it much higher in the list. You may want to experiment with the -1000 value (in pixels, thus the px). Move it higher or lower to suit.

    Here are the instructions on where to enter CSS:
    https://gethelp.wildapricot.com/en/articles/438

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    **** , elementary my *********************. Use CSS to position the button somewhere differently. Don't know how? Share a link here and ***************************** (not really, just me) will write some CSS to help you move it.

    Just about any element in Wild Apricot is movable without waiting for changes to be made, with some knowledge of CSS (Cascading Style Sheets).

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    I do think the idea of recurring events where you register for the whole set of a subset of events and repeating events where you have a cap on each of the events in the series is different.

    Management of the maximum number of registrants for example is different in a recurring event than a repeating event. You may wish to max out number of registrants as a maximum amount for the whole series.

    Or you may wish to max out registrations (say max of 1) for each of the events separately on a repeating event. The use cases drive different scenarios here. I would hope this feature would be flexible for both types of situation of recurring and repeating events, a subtle difference.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    This is the exact feature request that is necessary to setup a registration for a shared space such as a hotel suite in a condominium or a party room. Setting up an event that repeats with a separate set of registrants for each event is critical. This is different than repeating sessions which is just attached to 1 event.

    It is not a recurring event per se, but rather a repeating event that has an optional registration every day, every hour, every week, every month or some other custom schedule.

    This is very similar to a calendar invitation where you can accept a specific event , the whole series or just a set of events in the repeating series.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Any chance saml would be supported? How hard would it be to implement I wonder?

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    @alan there is a vibrant user group on Facebook. It’s called the grove. Have you heard of it?

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/WildApricotGrove/?ref=share

    We plan to implement this in our next WordPress plugin. See https://newpathconsulting.com/wap for more. The partner community is doing a lot here. Join us to help.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We are currently exploring implementing a version for Xero from our QuickBooks for WildApricot product - have a look here https://newpathconsulting.com/xero-for-wildapricot/

    Contact us to learn more.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    The new EZ Wild Apricot Web Designer 2 supports an unlimited number of language translations. Check it out at https://newpathconsulting.com/watm

    We also offer a service that includes a ready to use language file.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Yes! We have this functionality now -- here's a recent multilingual site we recently finished deploying for our customer - https://rcco.ca/

    We use our Wild Apricot Text Manager (WATM) tool to make this work - www.newpathconsulting.com/watm

    Have a look!

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We have built a system called the Wild Apricot Text Manager that enables translation of all content gadgets on one page as well as any fields or labels customized or hard coded. We have worked through a ton of the system gadgets and extracted a dictionary of all the hard coded labels. Using the WATM you can add your own custom CSS styles, translate any piece of content and enable language switching WITHOUT creating duplicate pages, events or any other Wild Apricot object. Check it out at www.newpathconsulting.com/watm

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    One thing that I will get started on is to extract the set of CSS IDs and classes that are used for the system messages and button names that are apparently hard coded into the system and NOT exposed in the theme templates but rather injected dynamically into the theme. Using a jQuery program I think we will be able to build a dictionary. Anyone interested in helping with this herculean task? There may be several hundred such messages in all the various gadgets? Theme overrides is a start.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    I wonder what the solutions or workarounds have been made to support more than one language on the website. Can anyone share?

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    It is possible to use the Shortcuts app to attach a custom icon to the Wild Apricot member app.
    Unfortunately this has to be done by each member so it’s not ideal but instructions could be made. A crap workaround but still a workaround.

    There is another item with almost 200 votes that request full customization of the app including branding too. Maybe go and add your thoughts there as well.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    NewPath Consulting offers a solution with lots of features including automatic syncing to QBO. Have a look

    Https://newpathconsulting.com/waqm/

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Is there any official statement on the state of accessibility in Wild Apricot websites?

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    Team Mobile responded

    Could you please elaborate whether you are looking for login into slack with wild apricot credentials, or login into WA with slack (as it is already implemented for google+ and facebook)?

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Has Slack started to support oAuth2 to login with Wild Apricot credentials via SSO yet? I wonder why they only supported SAML for SSO? I guess it's more secure or supported in enterprise more?

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    By the way I can see that with Integromat it may be possible now to push messages into slack based on a certain type of event that has occured in WIld Apricot.

    https://www.integromat.com/en/integrations/slack

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Dear Team Mobile,
    The ideal situation would be to use Wild Apricot credentials to automatically add yourself to a pre-configured Slack workspace. That way if

    1) you are not part of the workspace, you can automatically become part of one with 1 click from a link or button on the WIld Apricot website

    2) if you are already part of the workspace the link just takes you to the workspace, and logs you in if you need to login automatically

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    I merged another very similar thread into this one, they should be solved together – the registration to multiple events should be simple and fast if possible. There are a number of suggestions in comments on how to achieve this.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Michael

    NewPath is a partner for Personify on both Wild Apricot and MemberClicks. We work together closely and try to understand each other’s objectives.

    Personify is one of the only companies in the AMS space that has a partner program. They have that for a reason - all successful platforms need partners to make customers successful. Wild Apricot is an all in one solution, but it can’t always be everything for everyone. It’s not a Salesforce type system where you can model anything for a price. So they realize it has a very specific area of capabilities.

    I can’t guarantee they won’t ship their own new WordPress plugin, but the lack of maintenance in the existing one tells me they probably won’t. Wild Apricot Login hasn’t been modified in any way in 5 years. They don’t have the resources.

    As for price, our plans are to charge fees only for plugins that have a commercial benefit for the organization that uses them in. So if you use our future event registration plugin that will give you lots more flexibility than the built in event workflow WA has, that will hopefully be worth it because it generates value for your organization. This is the freemium business model many WordPress plugins follow. It will be a fraction of Wild Apricot’s yearly fee though.

    The idea is to have as many clubs and associations try WordPress at no risk just to see how powerful it really is. It opens all sorts of capabilities unknown to date. And liberates you from needing Wild Apricot from building new features every year. It gives you many more choices!

    My hunch is that they believe that Wild Apricot is mature and won’t be investing heavily in much more new modules. They probably will just maintain what they have refining any rough edges.

    A modern, fast, responsive website is a must today and the built-in Wild Apricot website module only takes you so far. I hope others will consider this path to having the best of both worlds.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    By the way, you’re never going to find a similar priced solution with this feature set elsewhere. Most systems are aimed at much larger orgs at 2-10x the cost.

    I consider Wild Apricot the best deal in the AMS space and pretty much one of the only solutions aimed at tiny to small organizations.

    There may be other systems like club express or mighty networks or bespoke WordPress powered systems but none will be as easy to configure or maintain. At least not yet.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Michael

    This integration issue is always a potential pitfall. But the API wild Apricot developed is the secret weapon of this system. It’s the place all integration will happen and what the mobile apps use.

    Instead of relying on the company to innovate in areas where they have no skills (modern content systems) partners could step in like us. And we have and will continue to do so.

    If it is commercially viable for us to make plugins and we think it is, we will maintain them for the long term. And the API will also be improved to include all parts of Wild Apricot. It’s already superb and we have built

    Https://newpathconsulting.com/warm and
    Https://newpathconsulting.com/waqm/ on it.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Michael

    I understand your frustration. I share it. This is why this is not a workaround at all. Most AMS systems don’t even have a website module and integration is always custom.

    Our solution is :

    Inexpensive- just cost of hosting Wordpress

    Capable - we spent 8 person months developing it this summer

    Her have a roadmap to replace the whole WA website system with WordPress blocks and themes.

    Give it a try seriously. You’ll love it.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    One potential idea would be to use WordPress to front end the whole event system and use a plugin to automate the registration to multiple events via the API. We are considering that using our plugin for WordPress

    See https://newpathconsulting.com/wap for more.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We just launched our new beta for Wild Apricot Press. It’s a totally new plugin that fixes many limitations of existing integration features and adds tons more functions as native blocks. Have a look at our free beta at https://newpathconsulting.com/wap

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Have a look at https://mcabc.org - a WordPress+Wild Apricot site we built for our customer Mechanical Contractors of British Columbia. The built in Wild Apricot website builder will *never* approximate a bespoke design. Don't even think that the company will focus any more effort into the builder. Heck they just removed the google map member gadget!

    Read all about our project here - https://www.newpathconsulting.com/2020/09/mcabc-case-study.html

    Squarespace, Wix and the other website builders make great brouchures. Wild Apricot is a database system first for associations. It is a website builder second.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Check out our Wild Apricot Text Manager to help with theme customization and theme translation into 2 languages. We built this to make it easy to fully customize each theme without having to use the theme override feature. We provide this functionality with each website as part of our consulting service but you can download the WATM for free at

    www.newpathconsulting.com/watm

    Enjoy!

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    A few more comments on customizing themes. Did you know that when you use Colors & ****** and make one change a special file gets created called customStyles in the Theme folder of your Files system. This file is actually the CSS of all customizable elements on your site. Making changes in some ways is EASIER on this file rather than the UI because now you know exactly which CSS class or ID is being modified. Now if you make a change in the UI it may overwrite this document. But once you know the class or ID you can search that on your page and know exactly what is being changed rather than guessing. Analyzing this customStyles.css document gives you a ton of ideas for customization the look and feel and is a great place to understand the CSS structure of a Wild Apricot theme. Here for example is what changes when you change the background image of the Site:

    body
    {background-image: url('https://sf.wildapricot.org/ThemeSharedRes/HeaderBackgroundImages/Bg-pattern-15.png');}

    Learning about CSS is the key to making WIld Apricot themes sing with delight!

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    *****,

    You can use CSS to modify a lot of the Wild Apricot website without changing the underlying template. Do you know how to do that?

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    In case you want to check out the membership site in WordPress here's the link https://umichtoronto.org

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    I have now had some experience building out equivalent functionality to Wild Apricot in WordPress. We built a membership site for an alumni club using several plugins and I must say the design capabilities in WordPress are superior to Wild Apricot. In most part this is because you are inheriting an existing template that looks good from the start. Is the functionality 100% equivalent? I don't think so, especially in the area of membership management, renewals. The plugin we used Ultimate Membership has some great capabilities that overlap with Wild Apricot but not quite as mature. There are others of course too that probably mirror. It took us 4 major plugins -- Mail Poet for email marketing, Ultimate Member for memberships/directories, WooCommerce for donations+ecommerce, The Event Calendar for event management. We also have Ninja Forms to create sign up forms to collect data through custom forms.

    On the plus site the integration with a single sign on for membership + ecommerce is much superior to Wild Apricot.

    On the minus side the event calendar solution does not have built in ecommerce and you'd need to use a form coordinated with ecommerce to build out custom registration forms.

    In the end, the capabilities are much more flexible in WordPress, but you need to know what you're doing.

    Wild Apricot is a perfect fit for new clubs/associations that don't have extensive design needs and ecommerce.

    WordPress is a perfect fit for those that need a nearly unlimited design capability and ecommerce flexibility.

    Of course with WordPress you own the code and need to maintain it, but there is no monthly increase in cost when you get to 1000 users. You just may need a better host to manage thousands of users at probably max of $50 per month in hosting fees.

    Wild Apricot is really aimed at a special kind of association and club -- one without an internal Marketing/IT department or staff.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    A few observations we've had. Many customers come to us with an existing WordPress website wanting to integrate Wild Apricot into their site. They recognize the limitations of the WA design capabilities out of the box. It's quite interesting too because WordPress plugins and themes have a ton of capability and it is very likely that Wild Apricot like functionality can be assembled with lots of benefits.

    Yet, they don't want to do that or invest in the exploration and testing required. There are just a lot of gaps and unknowns.

    The Wild Apricot current theme functionality is actually quite mature. With theme overrides there appears to be almost a limitless set of capabilities, but there is one thing that really scares me:

    Theme overrides override an existing theme. Once that theme is updated the override is probably totally separate from the underlying theme.

    It would be ideal to build a stock theme built specifically for theme design. Then open a theme library where themes can be put into a marketplace. Some are free. Some are premium. Some start free go to premium. This theme development system in WordPress is one of the primary reasons WordPress has gotten so big -- that and the plugins of course.

    I think Wild Apricot is quite close to that but the marketplace and ecosystem has to be developed with some marketing push from WA. I hope you consider this for a future effort. Your partners can help kick start this process.

    ps. Custom WA theme designs right now cost $5000+ -- this is totally out of the range for investment for most WA customers unless they don't have an existing site and the current designs are not "worthy."

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We have fixed this issue and implemented a ton more with our new suite of plugins. Wild Apricot Press is in beta.

    Https://newpathconsulting.com/wap

    Have a look. You will be amazed.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Our new plugin Wild Apricot Press does this. Have a look

    Https://newpathconsulting.com/wap

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We have launched our plugin with membership group support. Have a look at

    Https://newpathconsulting.com/wap

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We are implementing this with our fork called WAWP. SEE https://waxm.newpathconsulting.com/wawp for more details.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We have launched our Wild Apricot Press plugin to accomplish this and much more.

    Https://newpathconsulting.com/wap

    The beta is free!

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    Check out https://waxm.newpathconsulting.com/wawp -- we have started development of a directory plugin that supports Wild Apricot member directories from 1 or more ** websites.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We have launched our new plugin to support this and much more. Have a look

    Https://newpathconsulting.com/wap
    It’s currently free.

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We made a new plugin called Wild Apricot Press which has a lot of features the old plugin lacks. We also added native member directory support and have future plans to totally replace the website module with wordpress but keep the single source of truth in Wild Apricot.

    The beta is free!

    Https://newpathconsulting.com/wap

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    Alex Sirota commented  · 

    We have implemented a way to create custom member directories from 1 or more Wild Apricot sites with our WAWP plugin. Visit https://waxm.newpathconsulting.com/wawp to download the WordPress plugin.

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