Text editing
Several quirks in text editing need repair.
Enter adds 2 blank line:
Attempting to insert blank lines and paragraphs between existing paragraphs can create double blank lines or no paragraph separation at all.
Keep selection after applying formatting:
If text is selected and formatting (font size, bold, color) applied, the selection should stay there until clicked somewhere else. As is, it goes away when the formatting is applied, so if you want to change a paragraph to, say, a smaller font, italics, and a color, you have to selected it three times.
And many more
With the latest release version 6.12, we published a batch of fixes in the editing component. There were more than 20 bugs fixed (based on our internal tracker). Most of them were related to text and links formatting, issues with line spacing, HTML editing and different behavior in the different browsers.
We are not going to stop on this and will continue to update the Editor component. On some issues, we are still working and they will be published in the following releases.
As always, your feedback is very important. Please share it with us.
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Becky Parsons commented
This problem is a nightmare, especially when training a new person to create our newsletters. Make one change (such as hitting the "backspace key" or adding or deleting a sentence), and the line spacing and/or text size in the entire email gets changed.
I consider this to be a "bug", not a wishlist item!
I always create my content in MS Word, (it is more efficient, and I can work on newsletter content over several days), then I copy and paste my final content onto a web page or email, before inserting photos. I was told by a WA rep that I should create my content in the email or page editor instead of doing a copy/paste from Word - but that is too cumbersome. And guess what - when I do create content in the email or page editor, the same problems happen.
When I prepare a newsletter I end up having to send myself 5 or 6 test emails so I can fix all the idiosyncrasies before it goes out to all contacts.
OK, and here is the final rub: Every time I save an email draft and go back later to finish and send it out, I find word spacing throughout the content is changed - words are randomly strung together and spaces between words have been eliminated. I sent "before" and "after" the save function examples to WA and was told they can't recreate the problem, and therefore it is a problem with the latest MS Word version (I am on MS Version 10 which has Word 13). Is this an issue others are having?
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Merged
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Walt Bilofsky commented
Should this be merged with the existing thread https://forums.wildapricot.com/forums/308932-wishlist/suggestions/12871449-text-editing-enter-adds-2-blank-line-keep-select ?
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Tim Burnett commented
In the HTML editor a few things are non-standard: (1) Control-B and Control-I should toggle Bold and Italic, (2) when text is selected and an operation is performed on it the text should stay selected so you can make additional operations to it.
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Walt Bilofsky commented
Expanding on Paul's comment below:
The normal Windows convention is that Enter creates a <p> and Shift-Enter creates a <br>.
Can you just implement that, and get the text editor to accept our line and paragraph breaks instead of insisting on fantasizing its own? IOW don't end a <p> unless another <p> starts immediately, and don't ever toss in <br>s unless we type Shift-Enter.
Terminating paragraphs isn't critical. Most browsers work fine without any </p>s. But if you want to stick a </p> before every <p> except the first, that'd be fine.
Otherwise, the text editor needs to be a lot dumber about line and paragraphing spaces and just do what we tell it it.
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Linda Davidson commented
When I select text to change its style (normal to a heading), it would be nice to see what it would look like when I hover over the new style. If not taht,, then at least leave the text selected so I can try a different style. Thank you.
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Walt Bilofsky commented
<grumble>I hate to be grumpy about this glitch in an overall awesome text and web page editor.
But I have nothing else to do while waiting to receive another test email after seeing missing and extra blank lines in my carefully formatted e-blast, and having to go into HTML to fix them up.
It would be nice to have this fixed.</grumble>
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Michael Wallace commented
Better email formatting. Need to add many more Mac friendly fonts.
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Merged suggestions.
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Walt Bilofsky commented
This is included in the wishlist item https://forums.wildapricot.com/forums/308932-wishlist/suggestions/12871449-text-editing-enter-adds-2-blank-line-keep-select
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TBW commented
I constantly have to reselect text to change it. If I select a portion of text and then change the size of the font, I have to reselect it again to change the type of font. Keep text selected until I choose to deselect it.
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Walt, just want to let you know that we do receive and review all the comments.
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Walt Bilofsky commented
It is an ongoing irritation to hit Enter in the middle of text and get two blank lines instead of one.
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Marjy Leggett commented
I needed to copy a board member's contact information to the bottom of an email I sent out to all of our members. It transferred with large spaces between each line of his contact information. There is no way to correct it to no space between the lines. We need to be able to adjust this the way it can be done in Outlook.
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Katherine commented
This has been highly problematic, especially in the email editing. It's very difficult to create a consistent well presented newsletter due to bugs in automatic formatting undoing your work constantly.
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Terry O'Donnell Parsons commented
The automatic style changes are a daily irritation!!
The current fix I use for the blank line problem is to hold down the Shift key when returning, which sometimes makes the next line right below, and sometimes with an extra line which can at least be deleted. -
Paul commented
Also, the 'Clear formatting' button simply does not work.
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Paul commented
Most HTML editors have a 'Paragraph' style along with Header 1, 2, etc., which creates <p> tags instead of <br> with a carriage return. This would solve the first problem Walt points out.