Installments / Payment plans for events and memberships
Could Wild Apricot users offer their members an introductory trial rate for, say 30 or 7 days, followed by, say quarterly or six-monthly payments to spread the cost over the year?
That is very helpful during a recession, when many WA website users will find revenue dropping as their members cut back. To be able to spread payments looks very attractive to new prospective members: four quarterly payments of $10 is much easier on the budget than one payment of $40.
The introductory trial could be free, or at a pro-rata cost for 30 or 7 days. During the trial the member can cancel and either pay nothing (free trial) or pay just the pro-rata cost (low-cost trial). If he doesn't cancel, the next payment kicks in and is renewed automatically for each period chosen.
So a typical membership trial would look like one of these:
Free 7-day trial. Then $10 quarterly until cancelled.
$3.00 low-cost trial for 30 days. Then $20 every six months until cancelled.
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Thank you for the specific details Juliana. Our analysis and design team regularly reads and reviews these comments when we start working on a feature.
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Annie Oxarart commented
I'm a conference organizer and deal with employees whose agencies will pay conference fees, but not all the add ons like awards banquets and field trips. I have all of these setup on one registration form, and now I will have to go in and manually issue people separate invoices from paypal and then record that in wild apricot when they are paid. Anticipating over 700 people at my event, this is going to be a big task! It would be great to be able to partially pay an invoice and have a balance remaining on the invoice which can then be paid by someone else. One of the reasons we switched to wildapricot for membership and conference registration is the great integration of services; fixing this issue would be very helpful. Thank you!
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Bob, could you elaborate on why your organization needs this specifically?
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Bob Oswald commented
Definitely need a way to allow for installment payments.
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Briony commented
Just wondering if anyone could help me with a solution to this problem in my previous post re selling webinar subscriptions?
I'm being hassled to present a solution that involves paypal subscription payment solution but as this isn't integrated with Wild Apricot I'm at a bit of a loss and can't think of a work around that will still use Wild Apricot.
Would love to be able to present a solution - anyone have any suggestions?
Many thanks,
Briony
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Kerrie-Anne commented
My requirement is a little different in that an event with a high price tag might warrant part payments (similar to how some of those tv shopping websites work)
User registers for an event, choose to pay in full or opts for part payments (this could easily be managed by different registration types)
For part payments, number of payments will have been pre-set in the system (eg 3 monthly installments) and the user then pays only the first installment and will be automatically billed for the remainder until the payment is complete.
The last time I did this I had to generate each invoice manually, which meant I had a whole bunch of invoices floating about with no link back to the original event - made for a bit of a nightmare accounting wise!
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Briony commented
The organisation I work for currently sells monthly webinar subscriptions with invoicing and payments currently being managed outside Wild Apricot.
Given Paypal will manage recurring payments, the Board were hoping they could easily bring webinar subscriptions into Wild apricot too but I can't see a way that this could be set up.
The pricing structure is such that by purchasing a 12 month subscription - charged monthly - they receive a discount on the 'pay per webinar' price.
Also, the process is automated so they can select which plan they want and then each month they are charged the fee automatically without anyone having to go in and 'click a button'...
it's only when someone wants to cancel their subscription that we manually have to log into the payment gateway and cancel the subscription.
many thanks,
Briony
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Dmitry Buterin commented
Interesting, this has never come up before.
Can you elaborate how exactly are you usually using recurring payments for events? How many payments/amounts etc.
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Kerrie-Anne commented
I have a requirement for this too. Recently added an event with part payments and have quickly discovered that managing this through manual invoicing is not as easy as I'd hoped.
Surely it would take much given that you can set up subscription profiles in PayPal to be for a number of payments, not just a period...
cheers
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Eytan Behiri commented
Haven't start using the system and we already know installments will be needed. We need to be able to define partial invoices based on number of installments and then allow paypal payment or other tenders to be updated manually
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Evgeny Zaritovskiy commented
It does force to pay full amount
No, we're not working on it yet. See our Roadmap - http://help.wildapricot.com/display/DOC/Product+roadmap
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Kathy Harman commented
We're also in great need for the ability to take multiple payments for an event. Now that Release 5 is out, are you working on this?
And, meanwhile, if an event costs $1,000, can someone pay $500 when they first register? Or does it force them to pay the full amount at registration?
Thanks!
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wolfalohalani commented
Scott, mind sharing what you do to work around WA not accepting more than 1 payment for an event? Might we have this documented for those of us who are setting up events that need multiple payments?
FWIW, we're another organization that will need this functionality.
Thanks,
Katherine
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LizG commented
We have an annual conference every year. We also have an educational program. Some of our attendees are not the wealthiest in the world, and so we offer them a payment plan to pay for their conference ticket on a 10 month plan, or their educational program on a 10 or 12 month plan.
This becomes not just a convenience for our members, BUT, it also serves to increase attendance at these events, because people who are terrible savers, can make it due to the payment plan.
Right now, our Finance Director is putting through manual invoices every month. It takes her hours, because there are quite a few (to say the least). Being able to offer a registration type in events that is a monthly payment plan would be such a huge time saver for us. I can begin to tell you what a difference it would make.
Thanks
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Evgeny Zaritovskiy commented
We hear you, but we've been putting all our efforts into version 5 (to be release soon). Now, we're slowly getting into other requests and the key focus for us is to close as many long outstanding posts as we can. This one is among them, but we haven't had any progress on analysis yet.
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scottkingston@gmail.com commented
This feature has been discussed and desired by your member for 4+ years. How do issues get bubbled up to the top? My club sells 5+ trips a year for anywhere from $1000 to $5000. All of them require payments. Setting up WA to support payments is a COMPLETE pain. It's possible with multiple reg types and forms but.... it's a real nightmare.
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Evgeny Zaritovskiy commented
Sorry to say that, but no. But we have not forgotten about this, just had no resources to get to this yet.
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slynn79 commented
Has there been any further development on this? I really need to set up an installment plan option for our members, and I want it to track/record the payments in the WA system, just like a regular payment. I see posts back to 2009. Any news to report 5 years later? <crossing fingers>
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VCOMA commented
Hey everyone, you may not be aware but PayPal HAS two new payment plan features, installment payment plans and automatic payment plans (different than recurring payments). All WA needs to do is allow us to create memberships using these two new payment options. I can't imagine it would be too hard to create these but it would make a HUGE difference to us to be able to offer these as recurring payments has never worked in the way we want it to as it's a subscription rather than automatic payments (see the descriptions below from PayPal). WA currently offers use of the "Subscription" payments. These are available even with PayPal Payments Standard edition.
Automatic Billing https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_button-designer&factory_type=auto_billing&fli=true - Sign customers up for a billing agreement that allows you to charge them a variable amount - up to a mutually agreed upon maximum - each billing cycle. For example, utility bills.
Installment Plan https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_button-designer&factory_type=payment_plan&fli=true - Let customers pay for items using flexible multiple payments.
Subscription https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_xclick-sub-factory&fli=true - Offer subscriptions or other recurring payments for items like magazine subscriptions or club memberships.
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Britanak commented
I'm curious on how people are handling multiple payment for an event. I've seen posts dated since 2009 requesting this feature, but it does not seem to have been implemented. Hopefully someone has come up with a work-around. Just an initial deposit and final payment for an event, I think, would work for most people. Thanks.